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Post by gizmo2015 on Apr 30, 2017 13:04:09 GMT -6
Okay this is a question for the story I am working on.
What do you think makes a good bad guy ?
What makes a good henchman ?
Tell me your thoughts on this.
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Post by PolarStar on May 1, 2017 2:42:46 GMT -6
I don't know if this answers your question, but you should probably give a look on Dr. Robotnik from SatAM Sonic the Hedgehog to get some inspiration. He's mostly considered one of the greatest villain of animation history so I think he might be good to give you some ideas for your bad guy.
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Post by gizmo2015 on May 3, 2017 22:30:25 GMT -6
I have some of the sonic episodes on dvd.
I suppose it couldn't hurt to watch them for idea's.
Well I have the more light hearted series.
The one that has scratch and grounder.
I might see if amazon fire stick has the other sonic series that you mentioned.
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Post by PolarStar on May 4, 2017 8:37:24 GMT -6
I have some of the sonic episodes on dvd. I suppose it couldn't hurt to watch them for idea's. Well I have the more light hearted series. The one that has scratch and grounder. I might see if amazon fire stick has the other sonic series that you mentioned. Glad I could help You don't have to buy the dvds on purpose. You can see the episodes on youtube.
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Post by gizmo2015 on May 7, 2017 21:44:42 GMT -6
Yeah but I rather watch them in a legit way and without worry of the episodes being gone.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 20:42:11 GMT -6
This is an interesting thought, and one I've wanted to write about since I first saw this post. It's only now that I've finally had some time to do so.
So what makes a good story villain. That's a question for the ages, especially since good villains come in all sorts of stripes and colors. There's dark, insane nihilists like the Joker, borderline good-guy extremists like Magneto, greedy egotists like Lex Luthor, or comical idiots who are malicious but ineffective, like Voltar (an old cartoon called League of Super Evil). So what makes a good villain?
To use a definition from the movie "Unbreakable," there are three types of villains: Soldier, Mind, and Blend.
Soldier villains are villains whose villainy is only on the active front. These villains beat people up and take things, but their thought processes end there. Most villain henchmen fall into this category. However, some big level villains can end up here as well. Villains like the Rhino or Killer Croc are Soldier villains, their villainy is set in the moment, and they tend not to have much of a plan to back them up.
Mind villains are baddies who are schemers and plotters, but they can't fight very well. Machiavellian to the core, these villains think up what they want to do and then dispatch Soldier villains they hired to do the dirty work for them. Now, understand, just being a boss does not make you a mind villain; you also need to be unable, or at least unwilling, to fight. The likes of the Kingpin, Doc Ock (Spectacular Spider-Man), or Two Face fall into Blend. We'll get to them later. Mind villains tend to be like Lex Luthor (when he doesn't have a power armor), Rupert Thorn, or Senator Kelly. Not nice people, but unlikely to be trading blows, too.
Finally, you have the Blend Villains. Undoubtedly the most dangerous type of villains, these are villains who are smart enough to think and scheme, and strong enough to carry out the work themselves. It's not that they don't have lackeys to do the dirty work for them; they probably do, and work those minions regularly. However, these villains are also capable of fighting, and maybe even beating, the hero, on a physical, intellectual, perhaps even psychological level. If there's a huge, well known baddie, they likely are in this category. Along with the ones I listed before, other well known Blend villains include the Joker, Bane, the Green Goblin, Tombstone, and Magneto. I'd say Robotnic from Sonic SAT AM falls here, too, but I didn't watch enough to say for certain.
I hope this makes sense to you guys.
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Post by Systemcat on May 9, 2017 8:02:07 GMT -6
This is an interesting thought, and one I've wanted to write about since I first saw this post. It's only now that I've finally had some time to do so. So what makes a good story villain. That's a question for the ages, especially since good villains come in all sorts of stripes and colors. There's dark, insane nihilists like the Joker, borderline good-guy extremists like Magneto, greedy egotists like Lex Luthor, or comical idiots who are malicious but ineffective, like Voltar (an old cartoon called League of Super Evil). So what makes a good villain? To use a definition from the movie "Unbreakable," there are three types of villains: Soldier, Mind, and Blend. Soldier villains are villains whose villainy is only on the active front. These villains beat people up and take things, but their thought processes end there. Most villain henchmen fall into this category. However, some big level villains can end up here as well. Villains like the Rhino or Killer Croc are Soldier villains, their villainy is set in the moment, and they tend not to have much of a plan to back them up. Mind villains are baddies who are schemers and plotters, but they can't fight very well. Machiavellian to the core, these villains think up what they want to do and then dispatch Soldier villains they hired to do the dirty work for them. Now, understand, just being a boss does not make you a mind villain; you also need to be unable, or at least unwilling, to fight. The likes of the Kingpin, Doc Ock (Spectacular Spider-Man), or Two Face fall into Blend. We'll get to them later. Mind villains tend to be like Lex Luthor (when he doesn't have a power armor), Rupert Thorn, or Senator Kelly. Not nice people, but unlikely to be trading blows, too. Finally, you have the Blend Villains. Undoubtedly the most dangerous type of villains, these are villains who are smart enough to think and scheme, and strong enough to carry out the work themselves. It's not that they don't have lackeys to do the dirty work for them; they probably do, and work those minions regularly. However, these villains are also capable of fighting, and maybe even beating, the hero, on a physical, intellectual, perhaps even psychological level. If there's a huge, well known baddie, they likely are in this category. Along with the ones I listed before, other well known Blend villains include the Joker, Bane, the Green Goblin, Tombstone, and Magneto. I'd say Robotnic from Sonic SAT AM falls here, too, but I didn't watch enough to say for certain. I hope this makes sense to you guys. Makes sense to me ... it also gives me the urge to watch Unbreakable for the first time in years. I don't remember what you've brought up here in that but that's likely due to the fact I haven't seen it in ages.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 9:10:51 GMT -6
This is an interesting thought, and one I've wanted to write about since I first saw this post. It's only now that I've finally had some time to do so. So what makes a good story villain. That's a question for the ages, especially since good villains come in all sorts of stripes and colors. There's dark, insane nihilists like the Joker, borderline good-guy extremists like Magneto, greedy egotists like Lex Luthor, or comical idiots who are malicious but ineffective, like Voltar (an old cartoon called League of Super Evil). So what makes a good villain? To use a definition from the movie "Unbreakable," there are three types of villains: Soldier, Mind, and Blend. Soldier villains are villains whose villainy is only on the active front. These villains beat people up and take things, but their thought processes end there. Most villain henchmen fall into this category. However, some big level villains can end up here as well. Villains like the Rhino or Killer Croc are Soldier villains, their villainy is set in the moment, and they tend not to have much of a plan to back them up. Mind villains are baddies who are schemers and plotters, but they can't fight very well. Machiavellian to the core, these villains think up what they want to do and then dispatch Soldier villains they hired to do the dirty work for them. Now, understand, just being a boss does not make you a mind villain; you also need to be unable, or at least unwilling, to fight. The likes of the Kingpin, Doc Ock (Spectacular Spider-Man), or Two Face fall into Blend. We'll get to them later. Mind villains tend to be like Lex Luthor (when he doesn't have a power armor), Rupert Thorn, or Senator Kelly. Not nice people, but unlikely to be trading blows, too. Finally, you have the Blend Villains. Undoubtedly the most dangerous type of villains, these are villains who are smart enough to think and scheme, and strong enough to carry out the work themselves. It's not that they don't have lackeys to do the dirty work for them; they probably do, and work those minions regularly. However, these villains are also capable of fighting, and maybe even beating, the hero, on a physical, intellectual, perhaps even psychological level. If there's a huge, well known baddie, they likely are in this category. Along with the ones I listed before, other well known Blend villains include the Joker, Bane, the Green Goblin, Tombstone, and Magneto. I'd say Robotnic from Sonic SAT AM falls here, too, but I didn't watch enough to say for certain. I hope this makes sense to you guys. Makes sense to me ... it also gives me the urge to watch Unbreakable for the first time in years. I don't remember what you've brought up here in that but that's likely due to the fact I haven't seen it in ages. I'll admit it's been ages since I've seen it, too. Also, the movie only listed Soldier and Mind villains. Blend was what my family came up with after thinking about the concept for a time.
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