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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 9:35:38 GMT -6
One of the big arguments that people make about this series, both if they like or dislike the series, is that Penny should be the one getting the credit. The Nostalgia Critic is one such person pushing this idea. They are actually right in one way: Penny is the one getting the work done, and she is the one ultimately putting the bad guys behind bars. But the critic's vehemence one the issue got me thinking: does she actually want the credit?
After thinking about it, my answer would be no. Penny never seems upset that Gadget is getting credit for her work. Quite the opposite; it seems like she's thrilled that her uncle is being seen as a great crime fighter. None of their interactions show anything filial devotion on her part and paternal care on his. It's probably the biggest reason I love their dynamic.
This, in turn, leads to a second question: Why doesn't Penny want any credit? To that, I have two answers.
For one, there is the simple answer that she hates the limelight. This might sound absurd, especially to someone who wants attention, but there are people who hate to have attention put on them. If you have be following ReInitiated, you'll know this attitude does effect my Penny. She can't stand the spot light and reporters and their cameras freak her out. She wants to help make the world safe from MAD, but she doesn't want paparazzi chasing her down because of it, and she knows that would happen if people caught on to that she was saving the world at ten-years-old. Gadget, on the other hand, is (somewhat) less remarkable for doing so, and he handles media better than his niece does, so she allows them to direct their attention to him. Thus, the dreaded attention would be away from her.
The second answer is that she fears she would be taken from Gadget she anyone find out what she is doing. After all, I'm sure CPS has already had a field-day over Gadget's custody considering he is a cyborg. If they ever found out about Penny's activities, she'd be taken away in a heartbeat. Add that, with her intellect at such as young age, she would probably be sent to a government institution to make her a tool rather than placed with a family, she has good reason to dread getting any "credit" for her involvement.
What do you guys think?
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Post by PolarStar on Dec 8, 2016 9:46:27 GMT -6
One of the big arguments that people make about this series, both if they like or dislike the series, is that Penny should be the one getting the credit. The Nostalgia Critic is one such person pushing this idea. They are actually right in one way: Penny is the one getting the work done, and she is the one ultimately putting the bad guys behind bars. But the critic's vehemence one the issue got me thinking: does she actually want the credit? After thinking about it, my answer would be no. Penny never seems upset that Gadget is getting credit for her work. Quite the opposite; it seems like she's thrilled that her uncle is being seen as a great crime fighter. None of their interactions show anything filial devotion on her part and paternal care on his. It's probably the biggest reason I love their dynamic. This, in turn, leads to a second question: Why doesn't Penny want any credit? To that, I have two answers. For one, there is the simple answer that she hates the limelight. This might sound absurd, especially to someone who wants attention, but there are people who hate to have attention put on them. If you have be following ReInitiated, you'll know this attitude does effect my Penny. She can't stand the spot light and reporters and their cameras freak her out. She wants to help make the world safe from MAD, but she doesn't want paparazzi chasing her down because of it, and she knows that would happen if people caught on to that she was saving the world at ten-years-old. Gadget, on the other hand, is (somewhat) less remarkable for doing so, and he handles media better than his niece does, so she allows them to direct their attention to him. Thus, the dreaded attention would be away from her. The second answer is that she fears she would be taken from Gadget she anyone find out what she is doing. After all, I'm sure CPS has already had a field-day over Gadget's custody considering he is a cyborg. If they ever found out about Penny's activities, she'd be taken away in a heartbeat. Add that, with her intellect at such as young age, she would probably be sent to a government institution to make her a tool rather than placed with a family, she has good reason to dread getting any "credit" for her involvement. What do you guys think? I agree totally. And I think the second answer fits it clearly. The first answer fits too, but I don't see Penny as a person who hates attention or being scared of cameras and reporters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 9:47:48 GMT -6
One of the big arguments that people make about this series, both if they like or dislike the series, is that Penny should be the one getting the credit. The Nostalgia Critic is one such person pushing this idea. They are actually right in one way: Penny is the one getting the work done, and she is the one ultimately putting the bad guys behind bars. But the critic's vehemence one the issue got me thinking: does she actually want the credit? After thinking about it, my answer would be no. Penny never seems upset that Gadget is getting credit for her work. Quite the opposite; it seems like she's thrilled that her uncle is being seen as a great crime fighter. None of their interactions show anything filial devotion on her part and paternal care on his. It's probably the biggest reason I love their dynamic. This, in turn, leads to a second question: Why doesn't Penny want any credit? To that, I have two answers. For one, there is the simple answer that she hates the limelight. This might sound absurd, especially to someone who wants attention, but there are people who hate to have attention put on them. If you have be following ReInitiated, you'll know this attitude does effect my Penny. She can't stand the spot light and reporters and their cameras freak her out. She wants to help make the world safe from MAD, but she doesn't want paparazzi chasing her down because of it, and she knows that would happen if people caught on to that she was saving the world at ten-years-old. Gadget, on the other hand, is (somewhat) less remarkable for doing so, and he handles media better than his niece does, so she allows them to direct their attention to him. Thus, the dreaded attention would be away from her. The second answer is that she fears she would be taken from Gadget she anyone find out what she is doing. After all, I'm sure CPS has already had a field-day over Gadget's custody considering he is a cyborg. If they ever found out about Penny's activities, she'd be taken away in a heartbeat. Add that, with her intellect at such as young age, she would probably be sent to a government institution to make her a tool rather than placed with a family, she has good reason to dread getting any "credit" for her involvement. What do you guys think? I agree totally. And I think the second answer fits it clearly. The first answer fits too, but I don't see Penny as a person who hates attention or being scared of cameras and reporters. I'll admit, that first answer applies primarily to ReInitiated!Penny.
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Post by Systemcat on Dec 8, 2016 9:57:36 GMT -6
One of the big arguments that people make about this series, both if they like or dislike the series, is that Penny should be the one getting the credit. The Nostalgia Critic is one such person pushing this idea. They are actually right in one way: Penny is the one getting the work done, and she is the one ultimately putting the bad guys behind bars. But the critic's vehemence one the issue got me thinking: does she actually want the credit? After thinking about it, my answer would be no. Penny never seems upset that Gadget is getting credit for her work. Quite the opposite; it seems like she's thrilled that her uncle is being seen as a great crime fighter. None of their interactions show anything filial devotion on her part and paternal care on his. It's probably the biggest reason I love their dynamic. This, in turn, leads to a second question: Why doesn't Penny want any credit? To that, I have two answers. For one, there is the simple answer that she hates the limelight. This might sound absurd, especially to someone who wants attention, but there are people who hate to have attention put on them. If you have be following ReInitiated, you'll know this attitude does effect my Penny. She can't stand the spot light and reporters and their cameras freak her out. She wants to help make the world safe from MAD, but she doesn't want paparazzi chasing her down because of it, and she knows that would happen if people caught on to that she was saving the world at ten-years-old. Gadget, on the other hand, is (somewhat) less remarkable for doing so, and he handles media better than his niece does, so she allows them to direct their attention to him. Thus, the dreaded attention would be away from her. The second answer is that she fears she would be taken from Gadget she anyone find out what she is doing. After all, I'm sure CPS has already had a field-day over Gadget's custody considering he is a cyborg. If they ever found out about Penny's activities, she'd be taken away in a heartbeat. Add that, with her intellect at such as young age, she would probably be sent to a government institution to make her a tool rather than placed with a family, she has good reason to dread getting any "credit" for her involvement. What do you guys think? I agree with you & PolarStar as well, those explanations sound fitting.
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Post by PolarStar on Dec 8, 2016 9:57:56 GMT -6
I agree totally. And I think the second answer fits it clearly. The first answer fits too, but I don't see Penny as a person who hates attention or being scared of cameras and reporters. I'll admit, that first answer applies primarily to ReInitiated!Penny. Yes yes. But that idea could be another good option. I have to see if I read your AU.
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Dec 8, 2016 11:16:14 GMT -6
Shit Copter, I think you nailed it on the head in both counts! I don't think I have anything to add! I just totally agree! I think the only acknowledgement she would hold dear, would be from her uncle. She could care less, if it were from someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 16:14:31 GMT -6
Shit Copter, I think you nailed it on the head in both counts! I don't think I have anything to add! I just totally agree! I think the only acknowledgement she would hold dear, would be from her uncle. She could care less, if it were from someone else. I'd agree with that. Too bad he can't find out. He'd be proud after the shock, but he'd be temporarily left catatonic by parental fear.
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Post by gizmo2015 on Dec 8, 2016 21:26:27 GMT -6
Shit Copter, I think you nailed it on the head in both counts! I don't think I have anything to add! I just totally agree! I think the only acknowledgement she would hold dear, would be from her uncle. She could care less, if it were from someone else. I'd agree with that. Too bad he can't find out. He'd be proud after the shock, but he'd be temporarily left catatonic by parental fear. I could picture that.
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Dec 9, 2016 6:19:14 GMT -6
Shit Copter, I think you nailed it on the head in both counts! I don't think I have anything to add! I just totally agree! I think the only acknowledgement she would hold dear, would be from her uncle. She could care less, if it were from someone else. I'd agree with that. Too bad he can't find out. He'd be proud after the shock, but he'd be temporarily left catatonic by parental fear. Oh, yeah he would. I often think at times, could her involvement even hinder him? Or cause a bigger problem? And depending on the situation, of where, when and how, 'if' he were to find out. Then I would say yes! A 'big' yes even! I like how he found out in 'ReInitiated', I think you did that very well. I always told myself, a shock like that would make me sick. Then I read him more or less, hugging the trash can and doing just that! But what if he didn't find out that way? What if he found out during assignment? Like maybe he was surveying an area, from a high distance or just at a far distance and was using his binoculars and caught sight of her! I think a situation like that, could be potentially dangerous for him. His attention would be so fully focused on what he was seeing, and 'not' what could be happening right behind him! And most likely he would be stationary at the moment, unless he was riding on something. He would be easy pickings for a sniper. The cards would be stacked against him even more, if Brain was nowhere around as this was all going down. I really wish they would have made an episode where he found her, just once.
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Post by PolarStar on Dec 9, 2016 13:22:02 GMT -6
I'd agree with that. Too bad he can't find out. He'd be proud after the shock, but he'd be temporarily left catatonic by parental fear. Oh, yeah he would. I often think at times, could her involvement even hinder him? Or cause a bigger problem? And depending on the situation, of where, when and how, 'if' he were to find out. Then I would say yes! A 'big' yes even! I like how he found out in 'ReInitiated', I think you did that very well. I always told myself, a shock like that would make me sick. Then I read him more or less, hugging the trash can and doing just that! But what if he didn't find out that way? What if he found out during assignment? Like maybe he was surveying an area, from a high distance or just at a far distance and was using his binoculars and caught sight of her! I think a situation like that, could be potentially dangerous for him. His attention would be so fully focused on what he was seeing, and 'not' what could be happening right behind him! And most likely he would be stationary at the moment, unless he was riding on something. He would be easy pickings for a sniper. The cards would be stacked against him even more, if Brain was nowhere around as this was all going down. I really wish they would have made an episode where he found her, just once. You're not the only one. I wished for that since childhood!
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Post by gizmo2015 on Dec 11, 2016 0:18:07 GMT -6
Oh, yeah he would. I often think at times, could her involvement even hinder him? Or cause a bigger problem? And depending on the situation, of where, when and how, 'if' he were to find out. Then I would say yes! A 'big' yes even! I like how he found out in 'ReInitiated', I think you did that very well. I always told myself, a shock like that would make me sick. Then I read him more or less, hugging the trash can and doing just that! But what if he didn't find out that way? What if he found out during assignment? Like maybe he was surveying an area, from a high distance or just at a far distance and was using his binoculars and caught sight of her! I think a situation like that, could be potentially dangerous for him. His attention would be so fully focused on what he was seeing, and 'not' what could be happening right behind him! And most likely he would be stationary at the moment, unless he was riding on something. He would be easy pickings for a sniper. The cards would be stacked against him even more, if Brain was nowhere around as this was all going down. I really wish they would have made an episode where he found her, just once. You're not the only one. I wished for that since childhood! I am sure they would of worked out some compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 7:37:31 GMT -6
I'd agree with that. Too bad he can't find out. He'd be proud after the shock, but he'd be temporarily left catatonic by parental fear. Oh, yeah he would. I often think at times, could her involvement even hinder him? Or cause a bigger problem? And depending on the situation, of where, when and how, 'if' he were to find out. Then I would say yes! A 'big' yes even! I like how he found out in 'ReInitiated', I think you did that very well. I always told myself, a shock like that would make me sick. Then I read him more or less, hugging the trash can and doing just that! But what if he didn't find out that way? What if he found out during assignment? Like maybe he was surveying an area, from a high distance or just at a far distance and was using his binoculars and caught sight of her! I think a situation like that, could be potentially dangerous for him. His attention would be so fully focused on what he was seeing, and 'not' what could be happening right behind him! And most likely he would be stationary at the moment, unless he was riding on something. He would be easy pickings for a sniper. The cards would be stacked against him even more, if Brain was nowhere around as this was all going down. I really wish they would have made an episode where he found her, just once. It would be interesting to see, but I don't think it would put him in too much danger. He tends to get more focused when he's aware she's there, not less.
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Dec 12, 2016 6:56:07 GMT -6
Oh, yeah he would. I often think at times, could her involvement even hinder him? Or cause a bigger problem? And depending on the situation, of where, when and how, 'if' he were to find out. Then I would say yes! A 'big' yes even! I like how he found out in 'ReInitiated', I think you did that very well. I always told myself, a shock like that would make me sick. Then I read him more or less, hugging the trash can and doing just that! But what if he didn't find out that way? What if he found out during assignment? Like maybe he was surveying an area, from a high distance or just at a far distance and was using his binoculars and caught sight of her! I think a situation like that, could be potentially dangerous for him. His attention would be so fully focused on what he was seeing, and 'not' what could be happening right behind him! And most likely he would be stationary at the moment, unless he was riding on something. He would be easy pickings for a sniper. The cards would be stacked against him even more, if Brain was nowhere around as this was all going down. I really wish they would have made an episode where he found her, just once. It would be interesting to see, but I don't think it would put him in too much danger. He tends to get more focused when he's aware she's there, not less. This be true too. Still..would of liked to see him catch her once... just once.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 8:56:54 GMT -6
It would be interesting to see, but I don't think it would put him in too much danger. He tends to get more focused when he's aware she's there, not less. This be true too. Still..would of liked to see him catch her once... just once. Yeah, but that's just not going to happen in a formulaic gag-type show where status quo rules all. For change, there needs to be continuity, which is just something a lot of old kid shows didn't have. That's why I like working a story like ReInitiated. Since the world is not reset by the end of the episode, actions have consequences that carry over into the next episode. This formula allows more easily for character and world development.
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