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Post by madder on Jan 10, 2018 22:29:46 GMT -6
Is it just me or the more recent the spinoff is, the more supernatural elements show up?
Take note that I'm excluding the following: The movies since they're one-shot type of things. Gadget Boy since I never watched that one. The Field Trip is Edutainment. Enough said.
Anyways I remember Classic IG being mostly kid-friendly spy stuff with a very sci-fi bent. It's almost always criminal empires, tinkerers and mad scientists. Those few episodes with a supernatural element is almost always explained away as some weird tech or Gadget being Gadget. However due to the sheer number of episodes, there may be an episode or two with unexplained stuff. I dunno.
Gadget and the Gadgetinis is far more sci-fi than its predecessor with the even crazier technology and the occasional alien, but there's the episode with the unicorn (although the how and the why was explained away too). Then there's the ghost king at the end of that one episode with the holo-ghosts.
The 2015 series is even odder, since I keep seeing things like Easter Island being a bunch of stone mechas, the Fountain of Youth, and that one episode with the mystic hat of enlightenment or whatever. Oh, and Vampires.
Please correct me if I get things wrong. There's a buttload of episodes between the series and all its spinoffs, and I really can't remember all the details.
A side note: Gadget started out a skeptic and Brain, a believer and by the time we get to IG 2015 the roles have reversed. It's funny how these kinds of things turn out.
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Post by PolarStar on Jan 11, 2018 5:17:19 GMT -6
Technically what you're saying is that there are superficial and/or supernatural situations on the series that might not make sense, right? Personally I think they kind of work since these series are mostly "comedy" and has some scientifically situations.
For the classical series the only episode I have to complain is Weather in Tibet which for me was the most confusing episode, probably because of some situations that weren't too explicable, the animation of the episode seemed too rush and the dialogues didn't help a lot (but I won't lie that the scene where the Yeti becomes friend with Gadget is kind of cute).
For the Gadget and the Gadgetinis there are some disrespects with the original but not as much as the 2015. The episode with the unicorn is indeed kind of confusingly ridiculous, but I think for what the series were it actually worked. As for the episode of the ghost that's one of my personal favorite episode, mostly because Gadget is not too idiotic on it.
For the 2015, like I mentioned, is totally disrespectful of the classical series, having the original characters out of character (especially Penny), but since the intention of the original series was to be a comedy I think when it comes to argument all those stuff you mentioned kind of works in this one.
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Post by Systemcat on Jan 11, 2018 7:43:59 GMT -6
That seems like a good count of when supernatural elements have appeared with the exception of a couple. Er, my focus was more directed at the Classic series than any of the others when thinking of this. I was thinking of justification to the existence of RAGE in development, why these thoughts were even occurring. Leprechauns, trolls, and imps(?)
But yeah with the 2015 being more goofy than any other. It dipping into supernatural elements more than others sounds right and I'm guessing we'll see more of that with the 4th season.
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Post by madder on Jan 11, 2018 8:18:36 GMT -6
Its less "not making sense" but more "jarring". I'm just used to IG's stranger, more fantastical elements being mostly from criminals, tinkerers and mad scientists, as I already said. I don't dislike the supernatural elements, but it clashes and stands out a lot. It's like suddenly finding Lovecraft in a shelf full of Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot.
The spinoffs try to inch away from its origins and it doesn't work as well for me when they deviate too much. The 2015 series in particular doesn't seem to know what it's supposed to be, aside from harmless formulaic kid-friendly comedy. Seeing the new Stonehenge episode just made my confusion worse.
(That Gadgetinins episode was fun, but my favorite would be the one with the two-headed teenage alien boys. It gave me insight to how Gadget is as a responsible adult.)
EDIT: The above is a reply to PolarStar, by the way. I'm a pretty slow typer. Sorry.
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Post by PolarStar on Jan 11, 2018 9:50:46 GMT -6
Its less "not making sense" but more "jarring". I'm just used to IG's stranger, more fantastical elements being mostly from criminals, tinkerers and mad scientists, as I already said. I don't dislike the supernatural elements, but it clashes and stands out a lot. It's like suddenly finding Lovecraft in a shelf full of Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. The spinoffs try to inch away from its origins and it doesn't work as well for me when they deviate too much. The 2015 series in particular doesn't seem to know what it's supposed to be, aside from harmless formulaic kid-friendly comedy. Seeing the new Stonehenge episode just made my confusion worse. (That Gadgetinins episode was fun, but my favorite would be the one with the two-headed teenage alien boys. It gave me insight to how Gadget is as a responsible adult.) EDIT: The above is a reply to PolarStar, by the way. I'm a pretty slow typer. Sorry. I think I see what you mean. And can totally understand why it is strange because indeed the classical series didn't abuse much about the supernatural things while the other spinoffs did. The major problem with the classical series is that the original idea from DiC was to make a comedy similar to Get Smart and trying to do a kind of a parody with the Mission Impossible movies, but the thing is because of the things that you pointed out the series didn't work out as a comedy, mostly because of the scenes with Penny, who's the smartest character, which were way too serious and probably abusive. But when it comes to supernatural stuff they did something that was to show that most of those stuff aren't exactly real. With the Gadgetinis and 2015 series they went far when it comes with that subject. The Gadgetinis unfortunately shouldn't have done that because, although it disrespects the original characters for being a little out of character, it still respected the original argument of the classical series, while with the 2015 series, since it disrespect mostly everything, the supernatural things kind of work a little. But that's at least my point of view. (Oh yeah, you got a point in there with that episode! Didn't thought about that!) By the way, since you're new here, when you read the comments there's a link button that says "quote". If you click there you can automatically respond to the comment you're interested. That the way the person who wrote it will receive a message that you gave a response.
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Post by gizmo2015 on Jan 14, 2018 8:28:51 GMT -6
Wait wasn't there an episode involving some fake ghost in the original series ?
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Post by Systemcat on Jan 14, 2018 10:46:58 GMT -6
Wait wasn't there an episode involving some fake ghost in the original series ? Yes there was, Ghost Catchers.
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Post by gizmo2015 on Jan 14, 2018 20:33:07 GMT -6
Wait wasn't there an episode involving some fake ghost in the original series ? Yes there was, Ghost Catchers. I wonder if that was to poke fun at ghostbusters.
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Post by Systemcat on Jan 17, 2018 8:07:42 GMT -6
Yes there was, Ghost Catchers. I wonder if that was to poke fun at ghostbusters. I'm sure it was.
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Post by gizmo2015 on Jan 23, 2018 23:05:05 GMT -6
I remember there was a vampire character. However that might of been a costume that mad agent was wearing. Other wise they would of reacted to sun light and garlic.
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Jan 24, 2018 9:13:45 GMT -6
I remember there was a vampire character. However that might of been a costume that mad agent was wearing. Other wise they would of reacted to sun light and garlic. That was a M.A.D. Agent dressed up. They even had another agent dressed up as a were wolf. It was from the episode, 'Haunted Castle', were they went to Transylvania.
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Post by gizmo2015 on Jan 25, 2018 19:24:36 GMT -6
I remember there was a vampire character. However that might of been a costume that mad agent was wearing. Other wise they would of reacted to sun light and garlic. That was a M.A.D. Agent dressed up. They even had another agent dressed up as a were wolf. It was from the episode, 'Haunted Castle', were they went to Transylvania. Wasn't there one dressed up as a mummy or was that brain ? I forget what the egypt episode was even called.
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Jan 26, 2018 19:12:03 GMT -6
That was a M.A.D. Agent dressed up. They even had another agent dressed up as a were wolf. It was from the episode, 'Haunted Castle', were they went to Transylvania. Wasn't there one dressed up as a mummy or was that brain ? I forget what the egypt episode was even called. I believe there was an agent, as well as Brain that dressed up as a mummy. I think the episode was, 'All that Glitters', from the first season.
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Post by PolarStar on Jan 26, 2018 19:17:04 GMT -6
Wasn't there one dressed up as a mummy or was that brain ? I forget what the egypt episode was even called. I believe there was an agent, as well as Brain that dressed up as a mummy. I think the episode was, 'All that Glitters', from the first season. No, the episode was "The Curse of the Pharaoh"
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Post by eyesofthephasm on Jan 26, 2018 19:27:46 GMT -6
I believe there was an agent, as well as Brain that dressed up as a mummy. I think the episode was, 'All that Glitters', from the first season. No, the episode was "The Curse of the Pharaoh" Oh, yeah! 'All That Glitters', I think was that lost city of gold episode. My bad!
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